Friday, November 09, 2012

SBL ETC Dinner

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I am finalizing plans for a dinner at the Hard Rock Cafe in Chicago for Monday at 8pm.  I recommend that we congregate at the end of the Papyrology and Early Christian Backgrounds session (W181a - McCormick Place), and take the elevated train into the city center together at about 7pm.  I should note that this session includes two papers on the 2nd century Green papyri.  Alternatively, you can meet the group at the restaurant at 8pm (map).  In either case, please post in the comments below to indicate your attendance, so we can reserve enough places.  Attendance is open to all who love textual criticism!

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  1. I hope to be there as well.

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  2. Who is going to deliver the inspirational after dinner speech this year?

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  3. I hope to be there this year.

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  4. Hope to be there as well

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  5. Johannes de Vries11/08/2012 10:50 pm

    yepp, me as well

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  6. So who is presenting the two papers on the 2nd century Green papyri?

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  7. ok...I went and answered my own question...the first paper as shown on the SBL list of abstracts:

    Initial Findings on a Newly Discovered Early Fragment of Romans
    Program Unit: Papyrology and Early Christian Backgrounds
    Grant Edwards, Baylor University

    This presentation will discuss the initial results for a newly discovered papyrus fragment of Paul's epistle to the Romans. After noting the papyrus's physical characteristics, we will address the features and significance of its text which contains a nomen sacrum and may support a previously known textual variant. Additionally, since this papyrus may be one of the earliest witnesses to the Pauline corpus, attention will also be given to a likely date range and potential comparanda.

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  8. and the other one...

    If papyri could speak: Insights into the world of early Christianity gained from two unpublished papyri
    Program Unit: Papyrology and Early Christian Backgrounds
    Renate V. Hood, University of Mary Hardin-Baylor
    This paper will provide new data extracted from translations and reconstructions of two recently acquired, unpublished papyri fragments of Hebrews 9 and 11. A discussion of the condition, physical characteristics, usage, and dates of the papyri (preliminary data suggests that one is from the second century and one from the third century, while awaiting further dating in summer 2012), along with a presentation of scribal features, will provide insight into early (Egyptian) Christian writing practices and religious life. An examination of nomina sacra presented in light of paleographical data will bear significance on the discussion of the origin and function of nomina sacra in early Christianity. Additional observations from a variant in an explicit quotation in Hebrews, while making reference to the assumed LXX Vorlage, and other textual and paleographical data, will likewise illumine the socio-cultural world of the early Jesus followers.

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  9. My wife (Katie) and I plan to be there.

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  10. I am going off-topic here. Is there any news with respect to the supposedly first century Mark fragment? Isn't that part of the Green collection?

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  11. No statement by the Greens has ever claimed a first-century Mark fragment. Connection of any alleged fragment with that the Green Collection has been based on surmise.

    I remain confident that no such fragment will be published for several years, and even doubtful that one will be published thereafter.

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  12. Hi PJ, thanks for answering my questions regarding the the 1st century Mark fragment.

    I had assumed that that the 1st century Mark fragment according to Dan Wallace that information regarding the manuscript would be published in scholarly book by EJ Brill in 2013 sometime.

    If I recall correctly didn't the Green Scholars Initiative also state that non-Biblical Greek manuscripts such as the lost work of Aristotle would also be published in a book by EJ Bill next year?

    This is how I drew the connection with the first century Mark manuscript being in the possession of the Green Scholars Initiative. But like you said they haven't claimed such a thing.

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  13. "I remain confident that no such fragment will be published for several years, and even doubtful that one will be published thereafter"
    What do you mean? (1) It doesn't exist? (2) It exists but isn't of Mark? (3) It exists and is of Mark but isn't of early date? (4) It exists and is an early MS of Mark but the owner won't allow it to be published? (5) Something else?

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    Matthew Hamilton

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  14. Matthew, I don't have access to 'it', and so cannot even confirm that there is an 'it', though I can confirm that people I have met believe there is an 'it' and have met people who claim to have seen 'it'. So I'm a minimum of 2 steps away from an eyewitness, and if you take my word for it, you're a minimum of 3. Not a great basis for confidence, but a great basis for rumours.

    So my suggestion is that we don't actively believe in 'it' until we have more evidence.

    Since the Green Collection does not claim to own 'it' and anyway puts its papyri on display (as I've already seen them in the Vatican, Atlanta and Charlotte this year alone), we should not connect 'it' with the GC or confuse the likely fast speed of publication of the GC papyri with any timescale for the publication of any potential 'it'.

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  15. Has AnneMarie Luijendijk's paper on the "Gospel of Jesus' Wife" been removed from the program? It just vanished from my schedule on the SBL app.

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  16. PJW,

    Well, connected to the Greek Collection or not, the countdown is on, inasmuch as Dan Wallace gave a specific time-parameter for the publication of the extremely early papyrus of Mark.

    In other news . . . how was the meal?

    Yours in Christ,

    James Snapp, Jr.

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  17. James -

    I thought "the meal" was scheduled for Monday 11/19, not Monday 11/12.

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  18. I have just finalized the reservations for 20 people. Please feel free to come along even if you have not RSVPed, as I expect they will have no problem seating another ten with us. I think that they have a section reserved for us which can fit considerably more.

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