tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post6959407401687137697..comments2024-03-28T00:45:18.442+00:00Comments on Evangelical Textual Criticism: Rius-Camps on the PAP.J. Williamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04388225485348300613noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-957202692587799412007-06-08T09:49:00.000+01:002007-06-08T09:49:00.000+01:00MAR: "Given Rius-Camps' thesis"This reminds me of ...MAR: "Given Rius-Camps' thesis"<BR/><BR/>This reminds me of an anecdote, when I last heard Rius-Camps, or actually Jenny Reid-Heimerdinger who read their joint paper on some aspect of the text of Codex Bezae Cantabrigensis. They were all the time referring to the "author" of the Gospel, i.e., D reflects the original Luke. In the final session Hugh Houghton did a brilliant job in summing up all the conference papers but in regard to Rius-Camps/Heimerdinger he accidently slipped when he referred to the "editor" of the text of Codex Bezae (which reflected the view of everyone in the room except the two authors, who of course corrected him).Tommy Wassermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10674769923361035721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-47031570210707679302007-06-05T11:06:00.000+01:002007-06-05T11:06:00.000+01:00MAR said:"Given Rius-Camps' thesis, one should won...MAR said:<BR/>"Given Rius-Camps' thesis, one should wonder why a more modest claim favoring Johannine originality of the PA at the traditional location is considered far-fetched by most textual critics. :-)"<BR/><BR/>Yes, that was something I thought too! His implausible thesis made other theses seem more plausible.Peter M. Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379103292621457026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-83699023772553302402007-06-04T20:14:00.000+01:002007-06-04T20:14:00.000+01:00Given Rius-Camps' thesis, one should wonder why a ...Given Rius-Camps' thesis, one should wonder why a more modest claim favoring Johannine originality of the PA at the traditional location is considered far-fetched by most textual critics. :-)<BR/><BR/>As for differing forms of text within the PA, the seven mu-forms of von Soden remain predominant, with Bezae (and two other minuscules apparently dependent upon Bezae) reflecting a wholly separate line of transmission. There perhaps are as many as two dozen differing lines of transmission that appear to exist (assuming that various "mixed" combinations of readings within von Soden's mu-groups are considered as separate lines).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-17058320948188806382007-06-04T20:02:00.000+01:002007-06-04T20:02:00.000+01:00How do these 3 text-types relate to the 4 identifi...How do these 3 text-types relate to the 4 identified by Wilker, the 7 by van Soden, and the 10 by Robinson?The White Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06732782601569135839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-63116383380072115512007-06-04T12:30:00.000+01:002007-06-04T12:30:00.000+01:00This really is a most amazing article. It would ta...This really is a most amazing article. It would take a long time to outline and critique all the elements. It would be a good exercise to set for a post-grad class though.<BR/>A large part of it is a textual commentary on the passage, with some interesting things to say. The overall theory (see also PJW's remarks linked in comment 1) has surprisingly little basis in the evidence for its key elements:<BR/>a) the Markan style of the PA<BR/>b) its original presence in Mark 12.12<BR/>c) its redaction and inclusion into Luke 20.19<BR/>d) its (completely successful) excision from both locations by 'Church leaders' who considered the PA too lax/tolerant.<BR/> <BR/>An interesting feature is the attention given to Maurice's article and to Wieland Willker's on-line textual commentary.Peter M. Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379103292621457026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-71933255257277368832007-06-04T12:14:00.000+01:002007-06-04T12:14:00.000+01:00yes, that is indicated in a note.yes, that is indicated in a note.Peter M. Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379103292621457026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-59960989005522418352007-06-04T10:24:00.000+01:002007-06-04T10:24:00.000+01:00Sounds very much like the paper reported here.Sounds very much like the paper reported <A HREF="http://evangelicaltextualcriticism.blogspot.com/2006/07/yet-more-from-snts.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>.P.J. Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04388225485348300613noreply@blogger.com