tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post3521595443783846290..comments2024-03-29T00:57:56.876+00:00Comments on Evangelical Textual Criticism: A New Approach to Textual Criticism – A Book that Will Keep You AwakeP.J. Williamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04388225485348300613noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-2181424392849313222017-10-26T17:34:32.684+01:002017-10-26T17:34:32.684+01:00Which leaves us all guessing as to the point in th...Which leaves us all guessing as to the point in the book at which sleep set in! (I'm not sure I want to know.)Peter Gurryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10396444437216746412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-51524000283742173132017-10-26T17:25:00.437+01:002017-10-26T17:25:00.437+01:00Yes, well spotted Dr Williams. Yes, well spotted Dr Williams. Peter M. Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379103292621457026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-85037563806591579552017-10-26T17:22:07.308+01:002017-10-26T17:22:07.308+01:00Spelling is an interesting case. Most textual gene...Spelling is an interesting case. Most textual genealogists (if I can use that term) argue for excluding spelling differences becasue they are thought to be too idiosyncratic, that is, too specific to the scribe and therefore not indicative of textual relations. This is what Richards found when he included data on the movable ν in his work on 1-3 John. On the other hand, Carlo Martini found that even in matters of spelling, P75 and B show close similarities. So, I argue in <a href="http://amzn.to/2gLtvZ0" rel="nofollow">my thesis</a> that we should include the data of spelling differences (particularly vowel interchanges) in the CBGM but with an option to turn them on or off. That would let us get some really good data to test if or when spelling matters genealogically. This is basically what Tommy and I say in this book too.Peter Gurryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10396444437216746412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-66364251502038996512017-10-26T17:11:56.715+01:002017-10-26T17:11:56.715+01:00Right, Dirk. I probably could have been clearer. I...Right, Dirk. I probably could have been clearer. I meant that any information about textual relationships learned from outside the method can be incorporated manually by the human editors and thereby reflected in the CBGM results.Peter Gurryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10396444437216746412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-28338673451827709262017-10-26T09:51:43.412+01:002017-10-26T09:51:43.412+01:00You wrote, 'it can already incorporate any kno...You wrote, 'it can already incorporate any knowledge', really? If 'it' means 'people making decisions', surely. If 'it' means 'CBGM', I think this statement is perhaps a bit of a stretch, right?<br />Dirk Jongkindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06759927266909478390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-26126897588130486242017-10-26T09:45:18.637+01:002017-10-26T09:45:18.637+01:00Not having read your text yet I have no criticism,...Not having read your text yet I have no criticism, but congratulate you on its reasonable price. (I'm coauthor of a book published this month that costs more than I would wish.)Stephen Goransonhttp://people.duke.edu/~goranson/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-13240769678544015172017-10-26T00:05:01.825+01:002017-10-26T00:05:01.825+01:00If the CBGM does have to stick with the more commo...If the CBGM does have to stick with the more common spelling in order to have a workable genealogy how does this affect the relationship between readings in manuscripts as to which precedes the other?<br />I ordered the book and am looking forward to reading it!<br /><br />TimTimothy Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06641788186736340533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-15475122502833169162017-10-25T21:27:17.434+01:002017-10-25T21:27:17.434+01:00Peter, in theory CBGM could incorporate all sorts ...Peter, in theory CBGM could incorporate all sorts of data, but I'd be interested to know how practically it would be any use in dealing with some issues of spelling data. It seems pretty clear in John that the best early spelling of Pilate is πειλατος, but if you start putting that sort of info into your genealogical database for John, won't it skew the relationships? I suspect ECM will have to stick with πιλατος despite the early mss in order to stick with a workable genealogy.Peter Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14213320717319559673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-65085637764949831532017-10-25T20:49:33.673+01:002017-10-25T20:49:33.673+01:00What is a Høgskole? Is the word etymologically rel...What is a Høgskole? Is the word etymologically related to Hogwarts? The White Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06732782601569135839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-77183366773715036202017-10-25T20:04:49.564+01:002017-10-25T20:04:49.564+01:00Well played...heheWell played...heheTimothy N. Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10696299768205488795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-28152402477718211162017-10-25T19:34:42.389+01:002017-10-25T19:34:42.389+01:00Thank you. Didn’t see it when I checked the other ...Thank you. Didn’t see it when I checked the other link. Will definitely get my hands on this one.Paulus Eliassonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00332025367047565849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-22063090525521693122017-10-25T19:17:47.873+01:002017-10-25T19:17:47.873+01:00The CBGM does not make decisions; people using the...The CBGM does not make decisions; people using the CBGM make decisions. We make that pretty clear. And it can already incorporate any knowledge gained by paratextual features (or any other features). But to paraphrase myself: read the book!Peter Gurryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10396444437216746412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-86824590005168841122017-10-25T18:37:10.877+01:002017-10-25T18:37:10.877+01:00To paraphrase Mark Twain --
It's not the part...To paraphrase Mark Twain -- <br />It's not the parts of the CBGM that I don't understand that worry me; it's the parts that I do understand."<br /><br />I just hope the review-readers perceive that no one who's had a close look at the CBGM is saying that it's a new way to make specific text-critical decisions in specific text-critical contests; for the most part it's a way to map manuscripts' texts in a dependence-showing array. And it will probably need to be re-done to include paratextual features that aren't currently being adequately considered.<br /> <br />James Snapp Jrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09493891380752272603noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-38848712208686198452017-10-25T17:14:38.734+01:002017-10-25T17:14:38.734+01:00I tried to go back to the future though.I tried to go back to the future though.Peter Gurryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10396444437216746412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-63116931831283364542017-10-25T16:22:18.778+01:002017-10-25T16:22:18.778+01:00That sounds like an admission of guilt to me.That sounds like an admission of guilt to me.Peter Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14213320717319559673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-20890838204494862382017-10-25T16:21:14.759+01:002017-10-25T16:21:14.759+01:00The last chapter is about the future, Pete stayed ...The last chapter is about the future, Pete stayed in the past.Tommy Wassermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10674769923361035721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-45511306040689981752017-10-25T15:56:03.271+01:002017-10-25T15:56:03.271+01:00Don't forget the vital word 'almost' i...Don't forget the vital word 'almost' in Dr Head's commendation. Who wrote the last chapter?Peter Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14213320717319559673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-87341484044469773362017-10-25T15:15:26.335+01:002017-10-25T15:15:26.335+01:00Yes: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076PRQZDZ/ref...Yes: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B076PRQZDZ/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1508913731&sr=8-1Tommy Wassermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10674769923361035721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-71636232316664650592017-10-25T12:57:07.155+01:002017-10-25T12:57:07.155+01:00Hi! This book sounds very interesting. Will it be ...Hi! This book sounds very interesting. Will it be available in Kindle format?Paulus Eliassonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00332025367047565849noreply@blogger.com