tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post2910479650009564070..comments2024-03-28T19:21:17.654+00:00Comments on Evangelical Textual Criticism: Why Does Michelangelo’s Moses Look Like That?P.J. Williamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04388225485348300613noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-1914035441495454262018-04-04T00:27:47.496+01:002018-04-04T00:27:47.496+01:00Yes. Thanks.Yes. Thanks.Stephen Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07183031389623563984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-91966442613228960392018-04-03T23:52:14.849+01:002018-04-03T23:52:14.849+01:00SB:
Good question. Two possibilities: 1) Jerome s...SB: <br />Good question. Two possibilities: 1) Jerome saw the edition of Aquila directly or 2) he accessed it from Origen’s Hexapla, which he says he saw. I favor the second option, but it’s hard to prove one way or the other. He does claim that he uses Aquila’s edition. So I don’t think this is information from his teachers. Make sense?John Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258579581521365645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-60788632543457554092018-04-03T22:29:39.126+01:002018-04-03T22:29:39.126+01:00Is there any evidence Jerome saw Aquilla? Or would...Is there any evidence Jerome saw Aquilla? Or would it be safest to say that he probably got this idea from one of his Hebrew teachers?Stephen Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07183031389623563984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-10651265286912553902018-04-03T20:14:00.191+01:002018-04-03T20:14:00.191+01:00Is this helpful?:
In Psalmos Davidis veterum inter...Is this helpful?:<br />In Psalmos Davidis veterum interpretum quae extant fragmenta, 1581.<br />https://books.google.be/books?id=MG4TAAAAQAAJ<br />Teunis van Lopikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04688392583243276804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-55577020266621696732018-04-03T18:47:36.113+01:002018-04-03T18:47:36.113+01:00Cool. Thanks for sharing. I'm interested to kn...Cool. Thanks for sharing. I'm interested to know if he ever preserved hexaplaric fragments whose source we no longer know. Have you run across this sort of thing in your study?John Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258579581521365645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-39166808433187434142018-04-03T18:42:41.372+01:002018-04-03T18:42:41.372+01:00John,
1. A sense of patriotism.
2. In many cases D...John,<br />1. A sense of patriotism.<br />2. In many cases Drusius presents surprisingly good exegesis. Reading his letters on the Scriptures is a pleasure. The editor of the Critici Sacri of 1660 did well to publish again so lot of Drusius' work.Teunis van Lopikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04688392583243276804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-88180202652738703352018-04-03T17:46:09.922+01:002018-04-03T17:46:09.922+01:00Teunis, what's your interest in Drusius?Teunis, what's your interest in Drusius?John Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258579581521365645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-12787612546984669542018-04-03T16:53:07.809+01:002018-04-03T16:53:07.809+01:00
John, to be honest, I am disapp...<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />John, to be honest, I am disappointed that Drusius is silent about the link to Amos 6,13.<br /><br /><br />Teunis van Lopikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04688392583243276804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-66965337666488334192018-04-03T16:08:02.614+01:002018-04-03T16:08:02.614+01:00Right, of course he did. The reading was also in F...Right, of course he did. The reading was also in Field and the Goettingen apparatus. What I don't find in these discussions is a full Greek retroversion of the Latin reading in the Amos commentary except for κερατώδης ἦν or something similar. John Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258579581521365645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-10887397426709066332018-04-03T14:42:28.870+01:002018-04-03T14:42:28.870+01:00Drusius mentioned already some of the aspects of y...Drusius mentioned already some of the aspects of your subject: Hiëronymus, Aquila, art expressions ... .<br />So, as Drusius said: Vide, si placet, & si otium est.<br /><br />I found Drusius texts in the Critici Sacri (1660) ad loc.<br />For a link to Egyptian tradition, see Grotius, also in CC.Teunis van Lopikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04688392583243276804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-67560971141038169132018-04-03T14:21:25.886+01:002018-04-03T14:21:25.886+01:00Thanks for these references, Teunis. Was there som...Thanks for these references, Teunis. Was there something specific you wanted me to see?John Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258579581521365645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-68476356843631511292018-04-03T13:25:40.966+01:002018-04-03T13:25:40.966+01:00Compare:
J. Drusius, Quaestionum ebraicarum libri...Compare: <br />J. Drusius, Quaestionum ebraicarum libri tres, 1599.<br />Lib. I, Quest. I, on p. 3-4.<br />http://books.google.com/books?vid=KBNL:UBA000057387<br />And: <br />J. Drusius, Veterum interpretvm Græcorum in totum vetus Testamentum fragmenta, 1622.<br />P.169-170.<br />http://books.google.com/books?vid=KBNL:UBA000010120<br /><br />Teunis van Lopikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04688392583243276804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-32957219374530624002018-04-03T11:46:34.064+01:002018-04-03T11:46:34.064+01:00Thanks for your comment, Gary. I was aware of icon...Thanks for your comment, Gary. I was aware of icons of kings with horns from Mesopotamia, but I had not seen the ones of the pharaohs that you cited in your article. Very helpful context for interpreting Moses' horns in the book of Exodus.<br /><br />I would think we could revise one minor part of your article: Moses' horns actually trace back to Jewish interpretation of this text with Aquila's version, not simply to Jerome. That is, alongside the Targums's "radiance" or "shining" was already another Jewish reading of this text that depicted Moses as "horned." But in any case, Jerome conveys this understanding clearly.<br /><br />Thanks again for your insights on this enigmatic text.John Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258579581521365645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-24567091299458756602018-04-03T05:23:01.277+01:002018-04-03T05:23:01.277+01:00Interested readers may wish to read my article, &q...Interested readers may wish to read my article, "Moses as Equal to Pharaoh," available here: http://jewishstudies.rutgers.edu/people/core-faculty/gary-a-rendsburg/gary-a-rendsburg (article no. 116). See pp. 216-218 especially. - Gary Rendsburg<br />Gary Rendsburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13189478092240362453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-38201124549733414492018-04-02T12:56:51.660+01:002018-04-02T12:56:51.660+01:00TJ,
Thanks! And, yes, Paul reads with the OG inter...TJ,<br />Thanks! And, yes, Paul reads with the OG interpretation in 2 Cor 3.John Meadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09258579581521365645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-89478275331374790712018-04-02T12:52:05.052+01:002018-04-02T12:52:05.052+01:00JM,
This article is extremely interesting. Not on...JM,<br />This article is extremely interesting. Not only does it answer the ‘why are there horns on Moses’ Head, but relates it directly to TC! I also found it interesting that Paul, at least, seems to have known/accepted either the OG or ‘metaphorical rendering’ since he describes Moses’ need for a veil as based on the glory (doxa) of his face.<br />TimTimothy Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06641788186736340533noreply@blogger.com