tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post8442702073196902873..comments2024-03-29T07:11:17.775+00:00Comments on Evangelical Textual Criticism: Was Mrs Jesus Pimped?P.J. Williamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04388225485348300613noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-52589744883328431002012-10-03T22:25:01.701+01:002012-10-03T22:25:01.701+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.hghhttp://growthhgh.info/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-4944567184537849352012-10-02T12:46:22.415+01:002012-10-02T12:46:22.415+01:00Christian wrote: "I also find it fantastic th...Christian wrote: "I also find it fantastic that of all the people to be approached to publish such a fragment, it was someone who had published along similar ideological lines."<br />I'm not sure what you mean by "fantastic" here. If it is a forgery, then you need an academic enabler (think Philip Davies and those metal codices), who is a) ideologically involved; b) technically under-equipped; and c) in an influential position.<br /><br />One thing that I think is interesting is the idea that the anonymous owner first approached King in 2010 with a photo and she said she wasn't interested (thinking it was fake) (http://harvardmagazine.com/2012/09/new-gospel). The logical next step for the owner would be to contact someone else! But he waits a year, contacts King again, and this time she takes the bait!<br /><br />Another thing I don't believe is this guff about the collector being bothered by people wanting to buy the thing! All collectors are interested in market value. Peter M. Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379103292621457026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-14908533574382872522012-10-02T02:32:37.968+01:002012-10-02T02:32:37.968+01:00Thanks for those helpful comments. At this stage,...Thanks for those helpful comments. At this stage, one of the things I would really like to see published is the hand-written note about the fragment.Mark Goodacrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-8133066740061047972012-10-01T19:02:00.566+01:002012-10-01T19:02:00.566+01:00Why can I see the first video but the second one i...Why can I see the first video but the second one is just a big black hole with a "block" tab on the upper right?Daniel Bucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-70866108854343057832012-10-01T17:37:18.518+01:002012-10-01T17:37:18.518+01:00I didn't know scholars used such words as &quo...I didn't know scholars used such words as "pimped". :)<br /><br />I learn something new everyday.Paul Goodfellownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-14142361919123569792012-09-30T16:32:51.630+01:002012-09-30T16:32:51.630+01:00Thanks, Mark. Stephen is referring to my Deutsche...Thanks, Mark. Stephen is referring to my Deutsche Welle interview. King's stay in Berlin at that time is a bizarre coincidence. I also find it fantastic that of all the people to be approached to publish such a fragment, it was someone who had published along similar ideological lines.Christian Askelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381441700351009913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-77325459045570128892012-09-29T20:07:55.333+01:002012-09-29T20:07:55.333+01:00Mark, King's CV states it clearly that she was...Mark, King's CV states it clearly that she was at Freie Universität in 1982-3, where she worked with "members of the Berlin koptische-gnostische Arbeitsgruppe. Her CV also mentions that she was there on a research stipend for doctoral research. Interesting!<br /><br />http://www.hds.harvard.edu/sites/hds.harvard.edu/files/King_CV_August2012.pdfBrice C. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06266974419256343386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-23617609274667601432012-09-29T18:07:43.698+01:002012-09-29T18:07:43.698+01:00Thanks for a very helpful post, Christian. And th...Thanks for a very helpful post, Christian. And thanks especially for the youtube video, which is very nicely done.<br /><br />Interesting comment, Stephen. I would like to see the hand-written note that came with this piece published too -- this is surely material evidence in the question of the origins of the fragment. What is your source, Stephen, for Prof. King studying there in 1982-3?Mark Goodacrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05115370166754797529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-69813576312295901612012-09-27T12:13:26.660+01:002012-09-27T12:13:26.660+01:00There are by now so many reasons to suspect that t...There are by now so many reasons to suspect that this ms is a fake that it is difficult to keep up with all of them. Usually if two of three reviewers suggest a ms is fake, that would be enough reason not to accept for publication. Curiously, an extraordinarily-learned papyrologist who first thought it fake (like many, including [non-papyrologist] me) somehow came to think it likely genuine, and in effect contributed to the article for a theology journal which gave the ms an unreliable date.<br />Given the publicity blitz, it may be fair to consider Christian's hoax (on her) suggestion, relying on correspondence mentioning now-deceased Professors at the Free Uni, Berlin. Coincidence that Prof. King studied there in 1982-3? Perhaps so. But, in any case, by now, the story of the modern Rezeptionsgeschichte may be more interesting than that of the repurposed papyrus itself.Stephen Goransonhttp://www.duke.edu/~goransonnoreply@blogger.com