tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post5378652306617969372..comments2024-03-28T14:13:51.996+00:00Comments on Evangelical Textual Criticism: Palaeography of an invoiceP.J. Williamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04388225485348300613noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-61490642021568187162019-06-28T12:44:08.459+01:002019-06-28T12:44:08.459+01:00It might be well if EEF convey an image of the 534...It might be well if EEF convey an image of the 5345 record card.<br />And I hope, if he is interested, that Revel A. Coles would comment.<br />Minor point: The Matthew parchment fragment is described as on skin of a cow, "ranch raised." How might one know the latter? Maybe merely a Texas/Oklahoma aside meaning domestic.Stephen Goransonhttp://people.duke.edu/~goranson/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-88958282936866664792019-06-25T13:02:10.616+01:002019-06-25T13:02:10.616+01:00If I were being picky, I would note that only page...If I were being picky, I would note that only page 4 of the invoice document is damning; it is not in dispute that Dirk Obbink sold papyri to the Greens, and pages 2 and 3 could easily have originally have referred to those. Equally it is not in dispute that Dirk Obbink discussed loaning a set of EES papyrus fragments to the Green collection for inclusion in their 'Passages' exhibition in the Vatican for Easter 2012; and was authorised to do so. So the photographed list (which is nowhere referenced in the invoice) could have an innocent explanation. It might have been possible to substitute the current page 4 for one relating to other fragments entirely.<br /><br />On the other hand there must have been earlier written communications from the prospective vendor of FCM to the Green collection before February 2013, as Dan Wallace reports being made to sign a non-disclosure agreement by Jerry Pattengale (as a formal requirement of the unknown vendor)'later in 2012'. So, if Mike Holmes has found the February invoice in the files of the Green collection, he could well have corresponding earlier correspondence setting out the terms under which images of the FCM papyrus could be shared. tom hennellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-51661823283497568992019-06-24T23:06:20.753+01:002019-06-24T23:06:20.753+01:00You guys never cease to amaze.You guys never cease to amaze.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16698562143972216357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-68418659726501092912019-06-24T21:29:59.051+01:002019-06-24T21:29:59.051+01:00I mean, all the letters are caps. But it looks lar...I mean, all the letters are caps. But it looks larger.Eric Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559055709208918638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-74830509544188201452019-06-24T21:29:17.748+01:002019-06-24T21:29:17.748+01:00The second "C" looks capitalized to me.The second "C" looks capitalized to me.Eric Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559055709208918638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-68400502858136136462019-06-24T20:55:19.137+01:002019-06-24T20:55:19.137+01:00Why would the real Dr Obbink write Christ Church a...Why would the real Dr Obbink write Christ Church as "Christchurch"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-63536848252493880942019-06-24T18:37:57.072+01:002019-06-24T18:37:57.072+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.Roy D. Kotanskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12372174590971844979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-71474852752971590432019-06-24T17:58:28.948+01:002019-06-24T17:58:28.948+01:00I'm not proposing deleting it. I just can'...I'm not proposing deleting it. I just can't quite believe you wrote it. Peter M. Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379103292621457026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-80336848310444413332019-06-24T17:51:17.241+01:002019-06-24T17:51:17.241+01:00This is gold. I favour keeping it online.This is gold. I favour keeping it online.Lev Eakinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10196445501448082794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-32646376315760692412019-06-24T16:23:53.822+01:002019-06-24T16:23:53.822+01:00Now that the cat is out of the bag, it seems inevi...Now that the cat is out of the bag, it seems inevitable that there will be legal proceedings that will settle any question about whether or not this is authentic. Either Obbink engaged in and can be proven guilty of very serious fraud, or either Dr. Holmes or someone else engaged in very serious libel against him.<br /><br />For my part I am completely confident that the invoice is genuine and that Obbink engaged in fraud.Eric Rowehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00559055709208918638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-76650372643664461712019-06-24T14:01:50.568+01:002019-06-24T14:01:50.568+01:00I'm happy to delete the post (or allow a blog ...I'm happy to delete the post (or allow a blog editor to do so) if you think it should be deleted. I thought something like this—asking if the two writing samples could be the same hand [without passing judgment on *who's* hand it is] on the basis of comparing the letters like we do with papyri—could be a little bit of a change of pace from the sensational journalistic tone this issue has had for several years now (to which I admit contributing my share of cat gifs).Elijah Hixsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05816323223305820788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17859011.post-11241478832708855572019-06-24T13:43:50.071+01:002019-06-24T13:43:50.071+01:00There is analysis, over-analysis, and pointless ov...There is analysis, over-analysis, and pointless over-analysis. I suggest this post is one of them.Peter M. Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03379103292621457026noreply@blogger.com